John Key and the things he does not want you to know: Part 1, the attack on the NZ dollar in 1987

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Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive.
Sir Walter Scott

(More proof of the 1988 Andrew Krieger timeline and the discrepancies with John Key’s timeline)

I took me a while but I finally had the time to read through the 15 page unauthorised Biography of John Key published in the New Zealand Herald of 19 July. It made for very interesting reading indeed.

As was to be predicted the editorial painted a picture of John Key as a squeaky clean, hard-working and driven man with a big heart. We are told that he is a good family man and was a good son to his mother whom he called everyday while working abroad. He miraculously avoided to be involved in the NZ dollar attack in 1987 by Andrew Krieger although he worked with him. He did not muck up during the Asian crisis whatever that may mean and was appalled at the level of risk Merrill Lynch, his former boss had taken on with Financial products now causing the subprime crisis. Lucky for him he again escaped involvement because those financial product were only developed in 2004-2005. He has worked in London, Australia and Singapore and again he has avoided another not so nice association; the sewer that is Wall street, New York from whence all the bad news about the subprime crisis seems to originate.

We, so we are told, have nothing to fear from this honest hard working man who, after becoming financially independent through his own hard slog, came home to fulfil his childhood dream: To lead this country to the greatness he feels it deserves.

That’s nice, I feel a whole lot better now… but wait I have this strange nagging feeling that just won’t go away. Something isn’t quit right. It sits uncomfortable in the back of my head as I try to get my thoughts straight. I decide to go back to earlier interviews and reread them to see if I can get a handle on that uncomfortable nagging.

This is a 3 part response to the NZ Herald editorial:

Part 1, John Key and the 1987 attack on the NZ dollar.

In the autumn of 1987 Andrew Krieger, the Global head of the Foreign Exchange of the Bankers Trust New York launched a brutal and spectacular attack on the New Zealand dollar. He thought that the dollar was overvalued and bet that the dollar would fall. In order to force the dollar down he started to sell NZ dollars in such huge amounts that de dollar indeed fell in the order of 5% to 10% depending on whose version you believe. He bet such a huge amount of money on the fall of the NZ $ (again depending on who you believe anywhere between $ 600 million to $ 1 billion) and as such he became a legend in the financing world.

The attack was so spectacular that the Federal Reserve had to contact the Bankers Trust to inquire why the bank seemed so hell-bent on creating instability  in the currency. The risks were huge to the NZ economy and could easily have caused a massive economic setback and distress for the NZ population.

So it is not hard to understand that John Key who after all has come back to do “good” for New Zealanders is more than eager to distance himself from this episode of Foreign exchange history. It would not come across as very nice if it turned out he was involved in the predatorial attack on the NZ dollar that could have cost a lot of his prospective voters their livelihoods.

In the NZH editorial for the first time we learn the year in which John Key went to work for the Bankers trust. In fact it is mentioned two times. The NZH article states that John Key went to work for the Bankers Trust in 1988 and Andrew Krieger made his attack in the autumn of 1987. In fact the article goes as far as saying that:

As the record book shows, when Krieger made his most famous speculative raid on the kiwi in 1987, Key had yet to start at Bankers Trust. Krieger believed the kiwi was over-valued and bet on a fall, selling hundreds of millions of dollars at a time, and once pushing the price of the kiwi down 5 per cent in a day, and eventually, he claims in his book, The Money Bazaar, helped begin a fall in the value of the New Zealand dollar. The strategy was to rebuy when the kiwi bottomed out at 59c.
The Reserve Bank was alarmed but the crisis passed. Key was not at BT during Krieger’s spectacular raid, but when he began running the dealing room at BT in 1988 he dealt with the New York-based American, a relationship he was comfortable with. He told the Sunday Star-Times earlier this year, that Krieger “was a very intelligent guy.”
Key’s then-boss, Gavin Walker, points out that working with Krieger was part of the job. “Managing that relationship on behalf of the dealing room was part of John’s responsibilities. He knew everything Krieger was executing on our desk.”

So that’s settled then, John Key did not work for the Bankers Trust when Andrew Krieger attacked the currency.

See, this is where the nagging started again and I went back through my notes on John Key’s career. This is what I found:

Andrew Krieger left the Bankers trust of New York in february of 1988.

I remembered Googling Andrew Krieger when I started my research on John Key (I have done research on Labour as well, I like to know who makes the big desicions in the country I’m living in) and up turned an interesting article in the New York Times about Andrew Krieger and his currency manipulations. It turns out that Andrew Krieger left the Bankers trust to work for George Soros after he only got paid a paltry $ 3 mill. as a reward for the fact that he made some $ 300 mill. in profits as a result of his attack on the NZ $.

The NZH goes on to say:

In 1988, Key was on the verge of leaving Elders, unshackling himself from a three-year contract after agreeing to three months’ “gardening leave” before taking up his new job at Bankers Trust, newly established in New Zealand.

This means that in order for him to be able to start working for the Bankers trust John Key had to wait three months before starting in order for Elders to keep their customers and prevent customer poaching. If this is so then there is a problem.

If Andrew Krieger left the Bankers Trust in February 1988 and John Key had to wait three months before starting to work for the Bankers trust then, even if those three months started on the 1 of January 1988, he would not have been able to work with Andrew Krieger as a customer because Andrew Krieger was no longer working for the Bankers Trust. In fact he would have missed Andrew Krieger by four to seven weeks.

In fact Andrew Krieger went to work for George Soros in a senior management position from April until June 1988 and left the currency trading altogether until he made a return in the year 1990.

In an interview with John Key in the Sunday star

He formed what was to be a lucrative relationship with 32-year-old currency trader Andy Krieger, based at Bankers Trust in New York, who began putting hundreds of millions of dollars of business through Key’s dealing room.

The same article states that Andrew Krieger was working for the Bankerst Trust while doing business with John Key

While Key can’t remember whether he actually executed some of the sells for Krieger’s 1987 speculative play on the kiwi, the timing suggests he did not. But Krieger continued his high-rolling punts on the Kiwi dollar after his big win, often placing $50m buy or sell orders with Key and his dealing room. The huge flow of business from Krieger and others at Bankers Trust in New York soon turned the local branch into the number one dealing room in New Zealand, cementing Key’s success and fattening his bonus packets.

While this could be a once off mistake made by the journalists who wrote the article, the quotes leaves no doubt that John Key was taking big orders from Andrew Krieger:

Key remembers getting a call from Krieger soon after he started at Bankers Trust. The New York trader’s first question was about New Zealand’s GDP and money supply.

“It was really the management of that relationship on behalf of the dealing room that John had responsibility for,” says Gavin Walker, former chief executive of Bankers Trust in New Zealand. “He knew everything that was going on in terms of the orders that Krieger was executing on our desk.”

this leaves me with several questions:

If Andrew Krieger had already done the dastardly raid on our currency then why does he call a total new comer in the bank about the state of the our currency?

If John Key arrives at the Bankers Trust sometime after Andrew Krieger has left than why does the article describe John Key as taking big orders from Andrew Krieger and others from the Bankers trust?

And if John Key arrived after Andrew Krieger left the Bankers trust than why is Gavin Walker the former chief executive of Bankers Trust NZ quoted as saying: “It was really the management of that relationship on behalf of the dealing room that John had responsibility for.” ?

It can be debated that the journalists Gillian Tett and Ruth Laugesen were confused about a timeline but it becomes harder to believe that both John Key and Gavin Walker would be mistaken about telephone calls or John Key’s function in the dealing room. If John Key remembers receiving a telephone call from Krieger wanting information about the currency it is very likely this has happened and if Walker says that the management of the relation with Krieger was John Keys job than it most likely was.

Now this is where the NZH article can bring some form of verification. Surely the three experienced journalists, Eugene Bingham, Carroll du Chateau and Paula Oliver who were tasked with writing and researching the article would have checked, checked and double checked the timeline they so proudly presented on the website of the NZH.

But again they reiterate the same confused timeline: John Key arrived sometime in 1988 and began a trading relationship with Andrew Krieger the New York based trader. Again Gavin Walker is quoted as saying that it was John Key’s job to deal with Krieger, who by then was long gone from the Bankers trust.

Key was not at BT during Krieger’s spectacular raid, but when he began running the dealing room at BT in 1988 he dealt with the New York-based American, a relationship he was comfortable with. He told the Sunday Star-Times earlier this year, that Krieger “was a very intelligent guy.”

Key’s then-boss, Gavin Walker, points out that working with Krieger was part of the job. “Managing that relationship on behalf of the dealing room was part of John’s responsibilities. He knew everything Krieger was executing on our desk.”

Andrew Krieger started his own consultancy business for several years and according to the man himself he left Soros very quick because he felt he was in a rut doing the same crazy hours and he felt like spending more time with his family so the old fire wasn’t burning any more and yet we are told in two seperate interviews that managing the huge amounts of money Krieger, at the Bankers Trust was selling and buying was John Key’s main job at the Bankers Trust NZ.

My conclusion has to be as follows: John Key and Krieger have clearly worked together as money traders, this is confirmed in two interviews. The NZH would have the least reason to maintain these ties since it still puts Andrew Krieger and John Key together as currency traders, while the focus of this part of the article was to allow John Key to distance himself from the biggest attack on the NZ dollar in the history of New Zealand. It is confirmed by John Key himself and by his then boss Gavin Walker. Since Andrew Krieger according to the New York Times left in February of 1988 and according to Andrew Krieger he even left earlier then that it is impossible for John Key and Andrew Krieger to have done the alleged dealing in 1988. John Key according to himself left Elders in 1988 and he had to wait three months before he could begin at the Bankers Trust making trading with Andrew Krieger as a Bankers trust banker impossible. Andrew Krieger left the currency trading market in June 1988 after a three month stint as a senior portfolio manager for Soros, in all probablity not dealing himself but mamaging his junior portfolio managers.

We don’t know when excactly John Key started to work for the Bankers Trust but even if the three month period started on the 1th of January 1988 he would still have missed Andrew Krieger at the Bankers Trust and the relationship as both John Key and Gavin Walker describe it would not have been possible. Since both men adamantly describe such a relationship in two different articles, one written by two journalists and the other by three journalist who should have been able between the lot of them spot the error in the timeline, I can only draw one conclusion: John Key worked with Andrew Krieger and indeed managed his account but he did not do so in 1988. Whether by design, ommission or a faulty memory John Key and Gavin Walker gave correct information when talking about John Key and Andrew Krieger’s relationship but since 1988 was impossible they must have given incorrect information about the period in which this took place. John Key and Andrew Krieger can only have worked toegether in 1987 thus putting John Key firmly in the traders chair on the other side of the telephone line to the Bankers Trust New York were Andrew Krieger was giving orders in what was to be the biggest attack on the New Zealand currency putting tens of thousands of New Zealand jobs and incomes at risk.

34 thoughts on “John Key and the things he does not want you to know: Part 1, the attack on the NZ dollar in 1987

  1. Key needs to be arrested for fraud, aiding and abetting, insider trading, and enemy of the state. Problem, nobody in the NZ legal industry will step up to the plate and challenge Key with a warrant of arrest, nor will the NZ Law Foundation take action.

  2. So Key had inside knowledge and bet against the NZ dollar back in the 80s to make a fortune… and also had shares in the then NZ Rail, and supported NATIONAL’s stance of selling SOE (NZ Rail) and made more millions. We’ve got this crook running our country?? Dodgy bastard, never liked him, never voted for him & never will.

  3. This implies… if I’m reading correctly that Key amassed his wealth by aiding and abetting an attack on NZ currency: “Steal a little & they throw you in jail; steal a lot & they make you king.”

  4. PonyTail brought his position here as leader of the National to get a knighthood, so he wont be rolled until he gets one, then he will retire within a week.
    The now second scenario for Key to be rolled, and his cabinet cabal (amazing millions of dollars in personal wealth) will be the troops getting captured & beheaded in the indefensible Camp Taji. They have no plans for a withdrawl, well behind the Yanks.
    Though, PonyTail claims that they will stay even if Baghdad falls is an absolute blinder claim, cause if Baghdad falls Iraq is a failed state.
    I can only conclude Key is insane, or psychotic to believe Iraqs worth saving, or he is totally incompetent and just following some moron spin doctors text. Either way NZs now heading down the drain to a decade long recession, his supporters are going to be left morally bankrupted.

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  6. Talk about grasping at Straws.. you Forgot to mention he is Jew.. what other Unsubstantiated dirt can we dig(Make) up

      • Well jews designed the debt banking system we operate under for a start. They are predominant in world banking to this day and are renowned for looking after their own. Take the fact John Key was an adviser to the US federal reserve, the institution at the heart of the corporate New World Order, you might conclude he has been planted here by them to advance their agenda. Add to that he is a serial liar and by any analysis a psychopath into the bargain, my esteemed countrymen have elected a traitor to his nation.

  7. Thats why the Winebox was dumped too much truth will be outed. Does this remind you of the leaky building effort happening in NZ the last few years

  8. Double talk is the name of the game. When confronted with his broken promise in the pre-2008 election campaign, Shonkey’s plaintive bleat is that the GST increase was “financially neutral.” Really? That ignores at least two things:
    1) Neutral to what or whom? Tax payers or tax spenders?
    2) If it was neutral, then why the hell bother? What was the point?

  9. I found this fascinating and very useful. Now, where are parts 2 and 3 of “John Key and the things he does not want you to know” please?

    • I wrote this after John Key got elected but got discouraged with the lack of interest at the time and the deed was already done so they never materialised. But this open letter pretty much sums up his career. I’m writing a post on his Wall street confession on breakfast news a couple of days ago. It will be posted today. You might want to share that with your John Key voting mates (If you still have those)

  10. just makes me want to roll my eyes and throw up both my hands..when I think back to the struggle of 1980’s forward/ we created a good business and worked at it for 22 years until we were duped and sold out to China then sued by those who duped us / now living day to day to make work to make a living because there are no jobs for creative people/ only slaves who are paid a pittance. John Key promulgates punitive sanctioned economic/ social policies.

  11. Thank god we’ve got a leader who knows the money market – the rest of them wouldn’t have a clue in this environment!

      • We did and have crooks in charge of “law and order”.
        Notice the legal system full of injustice created by the Crown that protects the Crown (and status quo) . Law and order is a Roast buster.

    • with our government debt now around 107 BILLION dollars up from 15 BILLION when he took over 6 years ago tell me again how this fiscal genius knows the money market. He sure knows how to borrow money created out of thin air by his american banker buddies. With the US debt standing at around 18 TRILLION dollars at the moment where did that money we borrowed and must pay back at around 4 BILLION a year in interest, come from?

  12. I have no respect whatsoever for individuals who gain vast wealth through such devious and counter-productive and corrupt means as currency trading.

    • Your guess is as good as mine. Bear in mind that the ’87 crash resulted in the reserve act signed by a labour Prime minister and designed by Don Brash, effectively signing away New Zealand’s independence to the Crown (City of London)

      • It also cost me the contract that I was working under and took me 5 years to get the prick to court . I won the case and the arseholes transferred all the assets out of the “company” that I sued and transferred all the debt another company they owned in !
        Finding ,they owed me $120,000 plus five years compound interest with was about 6 or 7 % then .
        But thats what happens when you sue a chartered account and the Judge takes three months to hand down his decision.
        Heenan Industries was the company Peter Heenan was the Chartered Account .His dad was an honest man ,Peter is a sleaze …second generation degradation as happens.

        “City of London” as apposed to England …now thats an interesting setup .

  13. Have you seen the many pages about dealings with Bankers Trust near the end of Volume 3 of the Winebox?

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