U.S. may have staged Georgian conflict – Putin

In an interview with CNN Russia’s Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has said the Georgian-South Ossetian conflict may have been staged to secure a victory for one of the presidential candidates in the U.S. He says preliminary reports show that U.S. citizens may have been present in the combat zone. “We have serious reasons to believe that American citizens were right at the heart of the military action. This would have implications for American domestic policy. If this is confirmed, we will have grounds to suspect that somebody in the U.S. has created this conflict to aggravate the situation and create a competitive advantage for one of the presidential candidates”.

Russia’s Prime Minister also commented on the media coverage of the recent events.

“As far as the perception of these events by the general public goes, it depends not only on politicians, but also on how artful they are in controlling the mass media. And our American colleagues do this much better than we do and there’s a lot we can learn from them”.

Putin stressed that Russia did not attack and cannot be portrayed as an aggressor.

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13 thoughts on “U.S. may have staged Georgian conflict – Putin

  1. You know what I’m going to stop here and leave it to my readers to decide. I’ve got better things to do with my time.

    Have nice life my American friend.

  2. I would have been really interested to read what you have deleted about 911

    I just meant that for the purpose of response I deleted the portion(s) of your post that were rooted in 9/11 trutherism, etc. I’m trying to keep this thread at least vaguely on track. (It’s hard.)

    We hate your army in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Why, exactly?

    Meanwhile, you’re totally cool with the Russian army in Georgia trailing ethnic-cleansing in its wake. Fascinating.

    [lots of emotionally-healthy stuff about how much you hate the U.S. and how much the U.S. dwells on your mind deleted]

    And what is so sad is the fact that when the inevitable collapse comes it will be ignoramuses like you

    What am I ‘ignorant’ about? Do tell. If you’re going to slander me like this at least back it up. Meanwhile, what subject is your PhD in?

    While your leaders bankrupted you, your children and your children’s children

    I am nowhere near bankruptcy, my finances are doing fine; but thanks for the concern.

    While your country is gagging for a war with Iran and is taunting Russia with Missile systems at its borders and edging closer to a nuclear confrontation it is people like you who do not ask critical questions about your own government.

    How many ‘critical questions’ are you asking of the Russian government?

    No wonder your country has to find find friends in Mafioso, corrupt Georgia.

    Meanwhile Russia is essentially a Mafia State (note: I have been to Russia, have you?) that conquers other nations for oil- and natgas-business reasons. But you think that’s FINE! Don’t you. You think that’s just dandy. Anyone who opposed the U.S. must be cool, in your book, whatever they do. Right? Talk about ‘critical thinking’.

    Fanny mae and Freddy mac are dead men walking and when they come down it’s bye bye America.

    Want to make a bet? We could come up with a proposition like: “America goes bye-bye when the Fannie/Freddie bailouts are finalized”. You take the Yes side, I’ll take the No side. How much?

    And all this from a peaceful 52 year old white middle class woman

    You don’t sound very peaceful to me. You sound filled with hate and bile that you externalize by using politics as an emotional outlet, to be honest.

    Let’s not forget what this thread was about: (1) you made a post that was naively, stupidly, or disingenuously based on taking Vladimir Putin’s words as gospel; (2) I pointed out that Vladimir Putin might not exactly by telling the truth or have factual basis to back up what he’s saying. That’s it. Somehow from there this has spun into a gigantic rant against America, which apparently for you is never far from the surface.

  3. I would have been really interested to read what you have deleted about 911 because clearly you are one of the 20 something % left in the US and definitely around the rest of the world who still believes the crap your Government has been spouting the last 7 years and who actually believes that Russia is still the big bad bear. LOL. You are becoming a rarity. Talk about a propaganda victim.

    Out here in the real world were we can actually get some real news, not the crap mass media you call news, you would be surprised at how, while we still love individual American citizens many of whom hate what your country has become too, we hate your warmongering government. We hate your army in Iraq and Afghanistan. We hate the ignorance of the average American and we hate your country’s empire building. Contrary to what you seem to believe we don’t think of the US as the Shining city on the hill any more. We think of you as lying, torturing, warmongering bullies.

    We can’t wait for the coming US financial collapse so you will have to go back were you belong; to your own country. Your country has lost whatever respect or love we ever had for it and you have become a pariah in the rest of the world. Feared, hated and loathed.

    Perhaps your government can buy or bully our leaders but they will never buy our souls mate.

    And what is so sad is the fact that when the inevitable collapse comes it will be ignoramuses like you
    who will wonder what happened to America the Great.

    While your leaders bankrupted you, your children and your children’s children with their vile, illegal wars of aggression you were asleep.

    While your leaders contaminated Iraq and Afghanistan with thousands of tons of Depleted Uranium you were cheering them on.

    While your country is gagging for a war with Iran and is taunting Russia with Missile systems at its borders and edging closer to a nuclear confrontation it is people like you who do not ask critical questions about your own government.

    No wonder your country has to find find friends in Mafioso, corrupt Georgia. Nobody else wants to touch you with a bargepole any more.

    We may be stuck with the dollar hegemony for a little while longer but even China who depends on the dollar like no other has given up on it and is selling its dollar denominated debts off. Fanny mae and Freddy mac are dead men walking and when they come down it’s bye bye America.

    And all this from a peaceful 52 year old white middle class woman who lives sustainably and would not commit a violent act if her live depended on it and not a rag head extremist desert dweller. Your soldiers words not mine. I have known to many wonderful Muslims to know better.

    How sad.

  4. [9/11 truther stuff deleted]

    Do I believe them capable of training the Georgian troops and tempting a Nationalistic and unstable moron Saakashvili into an act of genocide in South Ossetia

    Of course the US government is ‘capable’ of training Georgian troops. We have been training Georgian troops for years, this is not a secret. Georgia has contributed troops to fight alongside ours. We & Georgia have become allies. It stretches my imagination to envision what sort of mind it takes to construe this as a sinister thing.

    As for South Ossetia, what “act of genocide” are you talking about? The one claimed by the Russian government? And you claim to have a healthy and intelligent skepticism of all governments? Did you mean ‘all governments except that of Russia’?

    All I can say is, read Michael Totten. If you’re genuinely interested in what actually happened in Georgia, that is (as opposed to simply being interested in using what happened in Georgia to make whatever political/conspiracy points you were going to make anyway).

    so the US can gain control over the Caspian Oil and gas reserves?

    The funny part here is that in this situation there IS a country that (1) invaded another country, (2) has an economy almost completely based on fossil fuels, and (3) shows no compunction about killing people to get their hands on supply lines, or choke them off, as the case may be. The name of that country is “Russia”. And yet you’re just fine with what they’re doing. Odd.

    Hence my assertion that I have more reason to trust Putin since he did not start the wars in Irag and Afghanistan

    We are not talking about Iraq & Afghanistan, we are talking about Georgia. Again it is evident that you are not really interested in the Georgia-Russia as anything other than a political prop with which to spout your political views. Thanks for illustrating my point perfectly,

  5. SC,

    No, I’m not going to draw you into a discussion about 911. Quite honestly I don’t give a toss what you believe or not but in a debate with me you need to understand were I’m coming from.

    In my world every Government is highly suspect and capable of anything.
    People who crave power on that level are all psychopaths with possibly one or two exceptions.

    Do I believe Putin to be a nice man? Hell no. Do I believe him capable of “false flag” operations? hell yeah.

    The issue here is that I can not believe the official “Conspiracy theory” (no proof has ever been offered that could stand up to real scrutiny) and since I cannot I look at the Bush and Cheney cabal very differently than you.

    Do I believe the American Government to be a good and protective of their people government? Hell no.

    Do I believe them capable of the most evil “False flag” operation ever? Hell yeah.

    Do I believe them capable of lying the world into illegal wars of aggression? Hell yeah.

    Do I believe them capable of training the Georgian troops and tempting a Nationalistic and unstable moron Saakashvili into an act of genocide in South Ossetia so the US can gain control over the Caspian Oil and gas reserves? Hell yeah.

    Hence my assertion that I have more reason to trust Putin since he did not start the wars in Irag and Afghanistan and had absolutely no interest in starting another cold war. Hell, Europe is Russia’s biggest cash cow why get them all upset.

    Now as far as 911 is concerned, NIST just published a rapport about WTC 7. it seems small office fires can trigger the collapse of a reinforced to withstand a nuclear blast building into a freefall speed (6.5 seconds) pulverisation into a pyroclastic flow into its own footprint so I have decided to take up demolition as my new trade. a couple of gallons of petrol and a BIC lighter should do the job. LOL.

    http://aotearoaawiderperspective.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/the-collapse-of-wtc-7-and-the-new-law-of-physics-as-discovered-by-nist/

  6. Yep, very very intelligent.

    I’ll get back to you tomorrow as I don’t believe in doing this while “under the influence” LOL

  7. SC,

    You read my blog, you don’t strike me as stupid. Do you still believe that 19 young Arab fanatics guided by a mad mullah in a cave were able to destroy the Twin Towers, WTC 7 and a side of the Pentagon with 4 hijacked 757’s they were unable to fly?

    By the way I’m not so sure about the “charmer” bit of your moniker. LOL.
    “Sonic Confronter” might be closer to the mark

  8. Hi SC,

    Truth be told I have more reason to believe Putin than Cheney and Bush and their lying, bullying Cabal.

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